Finding Truth Through Transcription

By Erin K. Costello

Like I mentioned on my last blog post featuring a transcription of a video on Katie Joy's YouTube channel, Without A Crystal Ball, I find this to be a very useful tool when looking at information spoken in videos.
My biggest problem with Katie Joy's sexual assault allegations is not her claim of sexual assault. I believe something happened and it was likely sexual assault, and probably by the person she claims assaulted her that night. I don't believe many women lie about sexual assault, let alone lie to the extremes of filing a police report and telling the world on social media. I realize I could be wrong, but honestly, it feels more right to be wrong believing her than it does to possibly be right in disbelieving Katie's story. Regardless, my issue with her version of events sets solely on the claims she makes regarding the Saint Louis Park Police Department, and the investigating officer who interviewed Katie a couple days after the alleged assault.
Rather than me spend this time explaining to you what I mean, I'm just going to provide a partial transcription for Katie's YouTube video titled, The Night That Changed My Life Forever - No One Believed Me, uploaded to YouTube on September 7, 2020. The part I am posting here is the part where Katie describes her experience reporting her assault, and the alleged horrible treatment she claims to have received from law enforcement as a result. Now, mind you, this is a man's career she is shitting on with these accusations. I realize officers are not without fault, I mean, they are only human like the rest of us after all, and I do find it to feel very odd to be on this side of a discussion regarding behavior from law enforcement, but there is no way Katie is being honest in her recollection of events with this detective. The biggest reason for my saying this is her unbelievable story she told in her video, nothing else.
The section I transcribed, without break, begins at the 28:15 mark of the video, and ends at the 40:20 mark. I urge you to take a moment and read what she had to say before you come to a conclusion. Her accusations regarding the officer are ridiculous.
I have uploaded the video in question to the following Dropbox link since, as usual, Katie privatized this video after her publishing it had a less than desirable affect.
The transcription is as follows:

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“[talking about being interviewed by the police detective, "Mike"] by the most arrogant officer I've ever met in my entire life. His name was Mike, and I don't remember his last name. I think it was like Johnson or Jones. I don't even remember. Mike was his first name. And he was a detective with the Saint Louis Park Police Department. And he was really cocky. He talked to me about how he solved all kinds of cases that were like redrum [murder]*** like I just, I remember him telling me like "I just solved this recent redrum [murder]," and "I'm a really good detective." I mean that's literally like how he treated me. Like I should be applauding him for solving it, you know? And he brought me in and he was like "well, I had an opportunity to speak with John,” and I was like, "Ok." And he's like, "John has quite a bit of a different story." And I said "Ok." And he's like, yeah. I would say Detective Mike was like your classic misogynistic asshole of a cop. Not the kind of cop you want to do your work, at all. And he traumatized me so much that like this is the most traumatic part of my story. Because, I actually remember this. I don't remember what happened to me.

So I get into, he brings me down, he wants me to come down to the office, or to the station and he puts me into this room which was weird. He brought me put me into a gray room with a camera in the corner and like a table and it was like an interrogation room. It was not a room for someone that's reporting something. He brought me there to interrogate me. Not to actually believe me. And that's how it started. And he said "Well, Nick, Nick says that this is what happened. Nick says you invited him into your house, you started kissing him, you even told him that you had had a intimate relationship with your friend Casey and that you had no problem having casual intimate relationships with people. And because of your relationship with Casey, this is another one of those relationships." And I was like, "What? That doesn't even make sense." And I'm like, cause I did hook up with Casey, a couple of times, but that was totally not, it didn't relate to Nick. I was like, "Ok. So my life as a single woman and consenting adults it justifies what happened?" I was very confused.

And so he says, "You, Nick says that you started kissing him and you took him upstairs." And I said, "What?" And he said, "He says that you kicked the dogs off of the bed, you kicked all of the covers off the bed, he says that you even put his thing in your body." "WHAT?!" "WHAT?!" He told the police that I put it in him-me, with my hands. "What?!" [laughing] I couldn't believe what I was listening to. I'm like "So I did everything? Really?" And I'm laughing right now because it's like I couldn't believe it. He says, "Yeah, so you put your, it in to you." And I'm like "Ok." And he goes, "And then apparently, you still wanted to do it more but you were pretty dry." And I said, "Ok." And he's like "So Nick said that he had to go to [Cub?] Foods to go buy some lube and some protection." And I said, "What?!" That didn't even make sense to me. I was a 27 year old woman, I never had problems with that, at all. If you have problems with that I understand, I'm not trying to shame you. But I was 27 years old and I never had issues with needing that, at all. Right? And he's like, "So he went to [Cub?] Foods and he bought this KY, and he bought the protection, and then he even went over to McDonald's and he went and got a egg mcmuffin, and then he says that he went back to your house and you guys did it two more times." And I was like, "What? I only remember pushing him off me once." And he's like "Oh no, Nick said that you did it three times that night." And I'm like, "What?!" He's like, "Yeah, three times." And I was like, "No." I said, "I don't remember any of that." And he goes, "Well, you know, Nick's from a really good family." And then I said, "What does that mean?" "Well, Nick has receipts for going to [Cub?], Nick has a receipt for being at McDonald's, and he kept those receipts. And he told me that you're reporting him to the police because he didn't leave a phone number. And he also said that you were mad at him because he told you he had a girlfriend." And I was like, "WHAT?! He never once told me he had a girlfriend, and it wouldn't have mattered because I wasn't planning on doing this with him."

And I'm like, "Ok." And he's like, "Well, Nick's from a really good family. And Nick's family would never be involved in something like that." And I was like, "What does his family owning funeral homes and a couple restaurants have to do with anything?" And he's just like, "His family has really good prestige, they're very well respected, I can't imagine someone from this family doing that." And I was like, and he says "Nick says that you're mad at him because he has a girlfriend and you wanted to be his girlfriend." And I said, "I can assure you, I do not want to be Nick's girlfriend, ever." And I did not. And then I asked him, I said, "Isn't it weird to you that he said that there was three times and I don't remember those other two? Doesn't that concern you?" And he's like, "Well, you have no memory. So you must be lying." And I said, "I'm WHAT?!"

And it went like this for three hours. And I was crying, and he just kept trying to tell me that I had made this story up, that it had not happened, that Nick had a story, I did not have a story, and because Nick had a story and I was a jealous angry girlfriend that didn't get a phone number and he left, and I was jilted, my revenge was to call the cops on him. And I'm like, "I have had plenty of guys turn me down and I've never once reported them, ever."

And I got so frustrated and agitated and I was like hyperventilating crying and I was, and then it was, "Well you waited two days to call us. He left on Sunday morning and you didn't call us until Monday night. Why did it take you so long? You waited that time because you needed to come up with a plan." And I'm like, "What?!" Mind you, I was not coherent until 5 o'clock the next day. I went to the hospital that night and then I finally got some sleep, and I, the next morning had to call in sick to work, and then was working with my parents and my best friend, who were encouraging me along with RAINN to call the police. And I was scared because I didn't think they would believe me and this is exactly what happened.

And I said, "Well the nurse told me that he gave me this medication and this is why I don't remember" And he said, "No. Nope." He said, "There is nothing. You're telling me that from three in the morning, or two thirty in the morning until ten in the morning you have no memory? You are telling me that you have no memory of what happened. That's impossible. Those medications don't stay in your system that long. Nothing, nothing will stay in your body that long." Which is not true by the way, at all.

So, I finally got him to stop berating me and accusing me of lying. And he said to me, "Well, we'll see. We'll send the kit in. We'll figure it out. But it's gonna take time. We'll call you." And I said, "Ok." And he never called me. He never called me. And I was so scared of him and so, I like suffered PTSD from what that happened, in that room. I was actually diagnosed with it by a psychologist for two-fold; the PTSD from the actual incident and the PTSD from the, that interrogation. And I, they never called me back. I've never gotten any information about the kit. And I was so scared to contact them that I didn't want to see his face. Like the thought of having to see the police officer's face again would give me like sweats, I would throw up, I couldn't sleep. So, yeah. I never called them, but they never called me. And they promised they would call me.”

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Why is it always ONLY Katie's version of events we are hearing on such outrageous claims?

***This was a YouTube video and it was monetized. YouTube will demonetize videos that contain certain subject matter and they search for such subject matter through algorithms that search for specific keywords, and “murder” is one of those keywords. This is why Katie calls it redrum, to avoid demonetization.